Methods, systems, and devices for wireless communications are described that provide for multiple timing advance offsets that may be used in communications between wireless devices on a wireless communications system. A first timing advance offset may be a fixed offset that has a predetermined value or is selected from a set of available predetermined values, and a second timing advance offset may be adjustable by a wireless device. The second timing advance offset may be used in cases where relatively large distances between wireless devices are present in a system, where certain fixed timing advances are used in addition to or irrespective of a receiving devices propagation delay, where one or more parent nodes have an associated timing reference, or combinations thereof.