The invention relates to an extrusion press or tube press (1), in particular for aluminum or aluminum alloys, comprising a press frame which consists of a cylinder bar and a counter bar (3) connected thereto, and in which a moving bar and a moving block receiver (2) are arranged, the moving block receiver being formed to move a block to be pressed, introduced with a loading device, into a compression position in front of the counter bar (3) having a die, characterized in that a shearing device (4) is provided for separating a butt remaining after the extrusion process, and the shearing device (4) is vertically and horizontally movable on the extrusion frame. The invention further relates to a method for separating a butt during extrusion and tube extrusion using an extrusion press or tube press according to the invention.