WHEREIN W IS CH2 OR CH-Q OR A HETEROATOM SELECTED FROM THE GROUP CONSISTING OF O,S(O)N, (WHERE N EQUALS 0-2) AND N-R; Q CAN BE HYDROGEN, C1-C15 ALKYL OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED BY CHLORINE, BROMINE, CYANO, C1-C4 ALKOXY, C1-C4 ALKYLTHIO AND NITRO; C3-C30 CYCLOALKYL OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED BY CHLORINE, BROMINE, CYANO, C1-C4 ALKOXY, C1C4 ALKYLTHIO AND NITRO; CU-C20 ALKOXY, C3-C30 CYCLOALKOXY, C1-C20 ALKYLTHIO, C2-C20 DIALKYLAMINO, C6C30 DICYCLOALKYLAMINO, CYANO, CHLORINE, BROMINE, C2-C5 ALKYL CARBOXY, C1-C5 CARBOALKOXY, C1-C4 PERFLUOROALKYL, THIOCYANO, C1-C6 ALKYLSULFOXIDE, C1-C6 ALKYLSULFONE, C6C10 ARYL AND C5-C20 HETEROCYCLIC; X RANGES FROM 0-6 WHEN Q IS A C1-C15 OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED ALKYL GROUP BUT FOR ALL OTHER VALUES OF Q, X IS NO GREATER THAN 2; R IS SELECTED FROM THE GROUP CONSISTING OF HYDROGEN, C1C16 ALKYL, C3-C10 CYCLOALKYL, C1-C10 ALKOXY, C3-C12 CYCLOALKOXY AND C1-C10 ALKYLTHIO. EACH OF THE ABOVE ENUMERATED R GROUPS MAY BE OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED BY CHLORINE, BROMINE, CYANO, C1-C4 ALKOXY, C1-C4 ALKYLTHIO AND NITRO; R'' IS SELECTED FROM THE GROUP CONSISTING OF; HYDROGEN, C1-C15 ALKYL OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED BY C1-C4 ALKYLTHIO, CHLORO, BROMO, CYANO, C1-C4 ALKOXY AND NITRO, C3C10 CYCLOALKYL OPTIONALLY SUBSTITUTED BY C1-C4 ALKYL, CHLORO, BROMO AND C1-C4 ALKYLTHIO, C6-C10 ARYL, C6-C10 ARYLOXY, C6-C10 ARYLTHIO, C6-C10 ARYLAMINO, C12-C20 DIARYLAMINO, HYDRAZINO, C1-C6 MONOALKYL HYDRAZINO, C2C12 DIALKYLHYDRAZINO, AND C3-C12 TRIALKYLHYDRAZINO, C1C10 ALKYLAMINO, C2-C20 DIALKYLAMINO, C2-C6 ALKOXYALKYLAMINO; Z IS EITHER O OR S. THESE COMPOUNDS HAVE BEEN FOUND TO POSSESS POST EMERGENT HERBICIDAL ACTIVITY.